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Tuesday, November 11, 2008

Beyoncé IS Wonder Woman

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So, in the wake of President-elect Obama, Beyoncé announced to the L.A. Times last Thursday that she’s in talks with Warner Bros. to play Wonder Woman. This on the heels of rumors connecting Will Smith to Captain America for 2011, and Quantum of Solace 007 Daniel Craig giving his thumbs up for a black James Bond. Anything is possible in the land of the free and the home of the brave now, huh?

A lot to unwrap. Wonder Woman’s never had a movie before, in contrast to the multiple incarnations that Superman and Batman have gone through. Her TV show (1975-79) was the only success she’s had in a live-action forum. The reasons for this could be several, but let’s choose two. Is Wonder Woman actually that interesting? I mean, she certainly could be, I guess. That George Pérez run from the late 80s was probably the coolest stint of her whole comic run. She’s an Amazon emissary to the outside world, sent to right wrongs and etc. etc. She loves Steve Trevor but it never works out, blah blah. If DC Comics didn’t need a female to complete the Superman/Batman trinity, she might’ve been written off long ago. If I’d been a girl, I’m sure her whole story arc would be a lot more compelling and inspirational.

Point two is, women superhero movies don’t do well. There’s Elektra and Catwoman and what else? Maybe the Lara Croft Tomb Raider movies count; they actually made a lot. Any Wonder Woman flick is gonna need some super star power. Whether Beyoncé is a bigger draw than Angela Bassett (sorry, but Wonder Woman’s not 50 years old) or whatever other real actress who might do a better job is moot in the face of Hollywood’s bottom line: will it make money? Can Beyoncé act her way out a paper bag, even for a superhero movie? The better question (unfortunately) may be, can Beyoncé put butts in seats and open a movie by herself?

As far as all these white characters getting melanin injections, I say “why not?” The comic industry stemming back to the early 1900s was obviously very Waspy and whitebread, and the tide has turned very slowly. Sam Jackson is already Nick Fury for the Iron Man franchise and beyond; the Thing’s blind ladylove Alicia Masters is a sister in the sucky Fantastic Four films; Marvel and DC long ago recast Iron Man and Green Lantern as black characters, however temporarily.

And who would you rather see as a black Wonder Woman? There’s not a lot of black actresses out there…

Comments

Mark at 4:23 PM on 11/11/08:

IIRC, Nick Fury has been Black in the Marvel-verse for a while, whether that was via the cartoon version or not I’m not sure. The cartoon version of Alicia was for sure. Iron Man, Tony Stark, wasn’t actually ever changed to a Black character, but his pilot Jim Rhodes, played by T. Howard/D. Cheadle in the films, took over the suit. Rhodes has his own suit and is called “War Machine” in the comics.

MML at 5:24 PM on 11/11/08:

wow, the cartoon alicia masters was black? that’s news to me, mark, OK! i know marvel created a whole other younger universe with the same characters (their ‘ultimate’ line), and it’s only the ultimate nick fury who’s black. and yeah, that whole ‘war machine’ thing came much later, but the black iron man i remember came about when tony stark was too drunk to handle his superhero responsibilities.

Mark at 9:47 PM on 11/11/08:

That’s Rhodes who took over when Stark took a bender. I remember Alicia b/c I remarked at how they were trying to get a two’fer with the “love is blind” thing. Maybe she was just kinda brown, lol. But definitely in the latest one she is portrayed as African American.

MML at 10:26 PM on 11/11/08:

yup, that is rhodes, i was all into the storyline at the time. i remember alicia masters’s dad being that villian, the puppet master. i guess he’s ret-conned black also then, unless she’s biracial.

JAY LAMBERT at 4:21 AM on 11/18/08:

Let’s get a white man to play MARTIN LUTHER KING! Pretty stupid uh? OBAMA got bought the whitehouse
and beyounce cant have WONDER WOMAN!

MML at 8:43 AM on 11/18/08:

1. MLK was, uh, a real person. (and so was cleopatra, who’s constantly portrayed by non-black actresses, the latest of which will be catherine zeta-jones. are you as indignant about that?)

2. if obama bought the white house, it’s no different than all the other presidents who bought the white house. that’s the game. further, it’s pretty clear americans were starved for change enough to elect him.

3. beyoncé as wonder woman isn’t your call to make, jay. she can have whatever the corporations think will make money; it’s the american way.

M. at 9:35 PM on 11/18/08:

God I hope not she’s just…not the one…Halle maybe…Angela yes….even Kerry but if this album is any inclination…I don’t think she’s wonder woman material…

MML at 11:18 PM on 11/18/08:

angela bassett is 50 years old; 25 years ago, yes, but we all need to let it go now, M. (haha)

shawn taylor at 11:20 PM on 11/19/08:

-damn, jay! bitter?
-beyonce is a poor choice for wonder woman, but wonder woman isn’t white. she is greek, and i’ve been to greece several times and quite a few of them are just a few shades lighter than i am.
-to make wonder woman work, you’d have to play up the greek mythology angle as well as have some kick-ass creatures. the flick would have to be more fantasy than superhero/ine.
-obama didn’t buy the white house, he called bullshit on white supremacy and forced a whole lot of people to do the same.

selah jones at 9:29 PM on 12/14/08:

It irked me when I first heard about this, so I was moved to make a comment when I saw discussion about it again on a much more comfortable forum… Here goes…

Wonder Woman is white. Period. Screwing with the history of the storyline/franchise is not a good way to begin a script if you want the mainstream to buy it. So just like I don’t want to see a white Storm, I don’t want to see a black Wonder Woman. ESPECIALLY not Beyonce, whose acting ability could be best described as confined to the restraints of a paper bag. (But if we HAD to, Gabrielle Union maybe? Hee hee.)

Beyonce is UNIDENTIFIABLE at 11:46 PM on 01/11/09:

Beyonce is UNIDENTIFIABLE as Wonder Woman. She is 5’6”, black & thinks fighting is like dancing. She dsnt take the role of playing WW serious & dsnt respect the fans enough 2 know that her playing Wonder Women would be TRAMATIZING & destroying the integrity of the comicbook storyline. There are already plenty of other black superheros that she can portray on the big screen. Storm who marries Black Panther (also a black superhero), Vixen, Misty Night, Nu’Bia- R they nt good enough? Why does she want to portray a superhero from Greek mythology? Why does she want 2 change an already established icon 2 suit her own needs & ego? When you change the most minut detail of a superhero whether it b the costume, their super power abilities, hair, eye color, skin color, demeanor it becomes a Big Deal. It has nothing 2 do with race & more w/poking holes into everyones favorite & beloved superhero. It puts hardcore comicbook fans in a uproar & justified outrage. Hugh Jackman knew this when he took the role of Wolverine & is very serious in how he portrays Wolverine. He is careful to stay true 2 the character in every way, shape and form. He is dedicated 2 the fans. Whomever takes up the role of WW must have the same dedication & consideration in order 4 the movie 2b a success. Your 1st obligation is 2 the fans- mke them happy because they are the ones who care the most. You need 2b able 2 identify w/WW on ALL levels & Beyonce does not. Wonder Woman is already powerful. She dsnt need 2b black to prove it. It’s like Kato from Green Hornet being played by Ed Burns, Foxxy Brown by Denise Richards, Zorro by Brad Pitt, Cleopatra Jones by Meg Ryan, Shaft by George Clooney..Could You dig it? Black people would not like it if their favorite superheros were so unjustly misrepresented. They would flip & w/good reason. So keep Wonder Woman the way she was created in the comics & on TV. Beyonce is seriously overreaching & out of her league to play Wonder Woman. She simply is UNIDENTIFIABLE.

Beyonce is Unidentifiable at 6:39 AM on 01/19/09:

I cannot believe that Miles Marshall Lewis’ article states:

“Wonder Woman’s never had a movie before, in contrast to the multiple incarnations that Superman and Batman have gone through. Her TV show (1975-79) was the only success she’s had in live action form.”

Please note that there has indeed been a movie in addition to the tv show. In 1974 Kathy Lee Crosby, a tennis player, played the role of Wonder Woman. It was said it was UNSUCCESSFUL on many levels. Hollywood changed so many aspects of Wonder Woman that the fans could not relate to her as Wonder Woman & the movie failed miserably. And she was white. So imagine Beyonce trying to be Wonder Woman.

So sorry that back in the day there were “only obviously very Waspy and whitebread” people doing the comics but whose fault was that? When they came out w/all these “white” superheros why didnt blacks make theirs too if they felt excluded? Why must the already established icons be punished & made black just to appease black people. Why not overcome this supposed “injustice” & come up with a new and better superhero? Why not encourage the black superheros you already have to make it to make it big? Are they not black enough or good enough that you feel the need to go and take a “White” superhero for your sense of justice. Reverse racism is just as ugly. And Wow, you’re so black and proud and yet you have to go after a white superhero instead of getting one of your own. oooo, Guess you showed them huh.

This is about comics. Dont lets get it twisted. The comics made WW of Greek descent. She was protrayed on TV & in the 1974 movie just as she was created in the comics. If they said lets change her to green, or red, or whatever I would protest just as loudly. Wonder Woman is not black. If they wanted to change Storm from black to white I would protest just as loudly. I like the comics the way they are & not tampered with. Simple as that.

“If DC didnt need a girl to complete Trinity she would have been written off long ago”…do you do your homework before you write this? Wonder Woman has always had a huge fan base regardless or are you just still hating because she was white? Did you put any thought into this article or was it just all about being angry at the “white people”.

Cherekee Eyes at 8:30 PM on 03/21/09:

Mrs. Beyonce Gezelle Knowles Carter is Wonder Woman. Even though Wonder woman is a Greek Myth, she is from the Amazon River in South America. If you look at pictures of people from that region, her honey color is exactly the color of Mrs. Carter’s. Which by the way, “Carter” is the last name of X-Wonder Woman, Linda Carter. Also, Mrs. Carter(BEYONCE) has an all-female band, just like the all female Army of fierce warrior women who conquered men and fought for good like Princess Diana, the secret identity of Wonder Woman. Could Mrs. Carter make the character Wonder Woman come alive?…the answer is YES…especially, if her husband JayZ plays Captain Trevor. They already make exciting videos together. Together, these two Super Americans could just play themselves and be Wonder Woman and he already is her Super man. In the music industry, between JayZ and Kanye West, they are already Super Heroes to up and coming Rappers and musicians as sponsors. She not only can play the part, she is living the part. Her mother Tina, is a beautiful Goddess, and great example to mothers every where in the world. Do your research…use your internet to look up Amazon. And with all kidding aside, you guys should stop hating on Beyonce, stop telling her she can’t act, she is a wonderful Actress. You should always encourage young people that is at least trying to do something beside selling drugs to our children. Beyonce, honey, if you read this comment, I want you to know, we are sooooo proud of you. And by the way, Tina, your mother should play Princess Diana’s mother. I would love to see her on screen. She is just waiting to be discovered as a Film Actress. Bring it on Baby with Alicia Keys playing your sister and that gorgeous black haired beauty, Solange: I love her in that black hair… playing Captain and Majors in the Amazon all-female Army. One of those Amazon black black or white beauties could fall in love and risk their lives to have John Legend’s baby. Here’s seeing you, especially playing Wonder Woman on the Big Screen!!!!

Love….your adoring fan …Cherokee Eyes. I have a Great Screen Play ready…called “The Lost Princess..WONDER WOMAN, waiting to be discovered. If your interested email me at the Church I attend. [email protected]

BEYONCE IS UNIDENTIFIABLE at 1:54 PM on 03/30/09:

The city state of Thermyscira (WONDER WOMANS HOME) was established in Asia Minor NOT THE AMAZON RIVER IN SOUTH AMERICA. The Amazons’ new home (when destroyed by battle with Heracules) would also be called Themyscira and by the goddess Athena’s decree, Queen Hippolyta led her sisters to the shores of the Aegean Sea. Poseidon parted the waters for the Amazons journey to an island paradise veiled from man. The island was situated in what was called the Bermuda Triangle.

What does Bey have to recommend her to be WW? In what way do you relate to Bey as WW?

1) She can’t act.

2) Thinks fighting is like dancing

3) She is only 5’ 6¼” (1.68 m), WW is 5’11-6’0

4) She is black, Wonder Woman is not

5) Bey has brown eyes, not sparkling blue. To put contacts on would only be cheesy like Jessica Alba in Fantastic Four

Wonder Woman doesnt beg she commands. Bey doesnt understand what it is 2 b WW so how can she portray her on the screen when you have others vastly more qualified? There is no shortage of actresses who LOOK MORE like WW & have the right qualifications. MEgan Gale, Jody Lynn O’kefee, Ivana Milicevic to name a few.

Yes, Bey is beautiful, talented as a singer & dancer, is married to JayZ but that alone shouldnt be the deciding factor to make her “WW”.

Our Wonder Woman that we all relate to from the COMICS and TV would become UNIDENTIFIABLE.

People want to call others racists for not wanting Bey as Wonder Woman not knowing they are being reverse racist (or maybe they do know). Its clear in how you want to change all the characters to black for no other reason than to be black. Instead of having the initiative and PRIDE to create their OWN black superhero.

BEYONCE IS UNIDENTIFIABLE at 2:15 PM on 03/30/09:

“Together, these two Super Americans”

With all honesty and truth I loved how you said that. Super Americans, it was beautiful.

But because they are both icons and you are huge fans of theirs it still doesnt mean they are fit to play the roles. Now had you said Storm from XMEN and Black Panther it would be more fitting, applicable. I could see that more. Storm is very tall, beautiful statuesque who can control the elements and once saved T’challa the Black Panther strong african leader. They marry and Storm is his goddess of worship for him and his tribe. They fight together. Check out the comics,they are very strong characters, powerful.

Beyonce has plenty of options available. You have Storm, Vixen, Misty Knight, Captain Marvel/Photon/Pulsar, Nu’bia etc.. or.. Have have the initiative and the pride to start your own superhero that black girls can relate to and represent them. You dont just commodere another super hero that is already an established icon.

MML at 8:03 PM on 04/02/09:

@beyonce is unidentifiable:

the film with cathy lee crosby was a TV movie. hollywood has never made a wonder woman movie.

Priest at 1:23 AM on 08/31/09:

So what? Beyonce wants to look more white and so do MOST black women. That’s why they straighten their hair and uses extensions. Black woman hair doesn’t look like that. When is the last time you seen a black woman with an afro? Exactly. Black men like white women and will only date a black if she’s “got her weave on right”. No perm, no love! Black females put all kinds of God awful chemicals in their hair every day just to look like the cute white chick next door. Black hair ain’t meant to blow in the wind! You all doing all you can to look like white people. Why shouldn’t Beyonce? Anyway only a piss poor businessperson would cater to blacks. Blacks don’t wanna pay for anything. They’d rather steal and bootleg everything they own. Look at all these rappers that gotta run drugs on the side just to keep up appearances. Every car and every piece of bling belongs to rent-a-center. You can’t make a living with blacks as your fan base. Go head Beyonce! When it comes to making money, WHITE IS RIGHT.

ZVJ at 5:51 PM on 10/20/09:

That last message by some Ignorant Ass named Priest,was one of the most Racist things I’ve read!He obviously doesn’t know what he’s talking about!-First of all,the people of the Amazon are Indian,Not white!Fucking White people lie about everything!Always trying to promote everything as being white,when most of It Isn’t!This country Is based on lies!The facts are white people are a weak race which only exist to copy other races & lie about history!If anything Wonder woman should be an native Indian woman of the real Amazon!Research ture history the facts are right there In plain sight!Amazonian people are Indian!Most of this world Is made up of people of color!White people are the most Ignorant & Racist race of people on the Planet!

KING COBRA at 3:20 AM on 10/25/09:

beyonce is fine enough to play wonderwoman

BEYONCE IS UNIDENTIFIABLE at 5:50 AM on 11/03/09:

Beyonce is fine, but its not what Wonder Woman is about. There was more to WW than just being beautiful. Wonder Woman wasnt of African decent and mythologies. She was of Greek descent ingrained with the history and mythologies of greek gods and goddesses. Wonder woman was written of a specific race & culture. Nothing personal about it. Just like Vixen and Storm. To change them to white from black would be EQUALLY WRONG. Like having Blade played by Ryan Reynolds. Its just WRONG. It wasnt written that way from jump so why change the characters race for no other reason than because “its time for that”. If Shaft were played by Brad Pitt there would be an outrage from the black community.

In regards to posting ignorant ass statements and being RACIST it would seem that Priest wasnt the only one guilty of this. If you are going to say the Amazons were of India that is also incorrect. If you go by the Wonder Woman version of the Amazons, they came from Greece. To be precise they were located in Asia Minor. Present day Georgia or ancient times Sythia. That would place them in the middle of Greece and Turkey. They were later relocated to the Bermuda Triangle. Mind you relocated, they would still be greek.

To say the “White” people lie about everything and are always promoting the “white” race name one race who doesnt put their own race first. Weak race? White is a color, pigmentation. Americans are all decendents of people of other countries so which one in particular would be the weaker race? Germans? English? Russians? Spainards? French? Swedish? Irish? Africans? Indians? Chinese? You hate the “whites” so much yet here you are acting just like them with this reverse racism. You have turned into what you hate the most. I thought you were supposed to rise above and overcome it in order to show yourself better.

“White people are the most Ignorant & Racist race of people on the Planet!”

When you point a finger, three more point right back at you.

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In regards to posting ignorant ass statements and being RACIST it would seem that Priest wasnt the only one guilty of this. If you are going to say the Amazons were of India that is also incorrect. If you go by the Wonder Woman version of the Amazons, they came from Greece

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